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    Quote Originally Posted by B Farnham View Post
    Andrew Abbott wrote a great letter that we're asking anyone who supports FF and FV to write to the CRB

    The letter is

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Wo/mobilebasic

    The letter to reference is #37307

    The link to the CRB is
    https://www.crbscca.com/

    Would be greatly appreciated for anyone that takes the time.
    Excellent letter with many good points. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. John

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgaluardi View Post
    Sent in a letter to support letter #37307
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    My letter has also been tendered .. #37349
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    I just don't see anything changing their minds. Participation is -not- the issue, we are getting cut no matter what.

    "The FV, FF, and F600 classes are uniquely compatible with one another to form a run group, but not compatible with the makeup of other run groups within SCCA Road Racing competition"
    https://www.scca.com/articles/201906...fv-ff-and-f600
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    https://www.scca.com/articles/201906...fv-ff-and-f600

    This is so typical of the ready-fire-aim approach by the National Office. They trotted out the new HST groupings in isolation when anybody with the IQ of a turnip could have predicted the reaction from the affected classes.

    Today's announcement is not as good as what it replaces, but it at least offers FV/FF/F6 an alternative. Why not bundle it in parallel with the original announcement, and mitigate the damage to some degree? I guess that would have been too sensible, too considerate, and requiring too much foresight.

    I shake my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Davis View Post
    My letter has also been tendered .. #37349
    Steve, FV80
    I know they aren't all in support of Andrew's letter, but there have been 40+ submissions in the last 3 days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Clark View Post
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    "The FV, FF, and F600 classes are uniquely compatible with one another to form a run group, but not compatible with the makeup of other run groups
    I agree with SCCA's decision in THAT regard... Vees are 'borderline' with FF and F6.. anything more than that is 'TOO MUCH'. Ergo, their decision to NIX all 3.
    I'm not sure we're not BETTER OFF than we would be if SCCA *DECIDED* to force us into another group.. or force another class in with us in "our" group.

    We can HOPE that SCCA might at least CONSIDER the options offered by Andrew's letter. Well done Andrew, though I suspect there were influences from several others as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Frog View Post
    At the ARRC at Road Atlanta today. One of the best yearly events put on well by the Atlanta Region at unquestionably a great track in fantastic weather... 8 small bore formula cars, only one FC.

    The track rents for over $70k per day. 8 cars doesn't pay for its portion of run time.

    Turn out the lights....
    I had the ARRC on my schedule for the end of the year, then they released the supps and schedule. $520 for 3 short sessions (I am not counting a 10 minute warmup 45 mins before a race as a session) is a farce, and the test day @$300 wasn't much better. The only way to make it work lap/$ was to do the TT on Sunday which we weren't allowed to enter. For effectively the same price I towed to Mid Ohio 3 weeks before and the OVR Autumn Classic event. A test day (on Friday not Thursday) with enough sessions that my neck gave out, Qualy + 3 Races. I even packed up and went home early Sunday because I felt like I got my money's worth and needed to be home for work Monday morning. We had 1 BFA all weekend with 27 cars on track.

    Also, frankly, the SCCA has said Regional participation doesn't matter for their calculations, so I went where there was way more competition and bang for my buck. At every other SARRC race this year small bore and/or big bore OW were in the top half of groupings size wise if not the largest, mostly bolstered by FV/FST in the small bore or Radicals in big bore group.
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    Maybe what needs to be gotten rid of are HST Weekends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLS View Post
    Maybe what needs to be gotten rid of are HST Weekends.
    This has all the trappings of another run at eliminating the difference in event types, an argument originally used by the IT community to get around the categories regional only status.
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