Lola T250 Super Vee

[Falcon Racing]

I recently purchased a Lola T250 Super Vee and am trying to find any early information. The car was invoiced to Carl Hass Automotive on Jan. 18th 1971 and delivered mid to late Jan. The first records I can find show the first Log Book issued by Chicago Region To Warren West in early 1974. Car is believed to have been run in the Pro Series in 1971-72-73 before going to Warren West. Car was then purchased by Ron Taylor of St. Joe, Michigan in 1975 or 1976 and then purchased by Tom Connley of South Bend, IN. in 1979.
No records are available from Carl Hass Automotive, so I'm looking for contact information for Warren West (formerly of Chicago Region who raced a Lola Formula Ford before moving to SV) or any other early information.

Thanks, Dave

[E1pix]

Presuming you’re searching for its Pro history from 1971-73, have you seen and/or contacted the Lola Heritage website?

Gerald Swan is a true and impassioned enthusiast of Lola chassis history, and diligently looking to fill in more HU info — and in turn, spread it right back to people in your position.

All my programs and results are packed in storage while we travel. That may change by summer and moving storage, and will help then if I can find this thread.

It’s worth a look at Runoffs entry lists on the VIR History site, those years are covered and many Pro or semi-Pro S/V guys also ran the Runoffs.

I loved Super Vee and had several friends running in Pro and Club — and winning many titles in the ‘70s.

Best of Luck, and please post whatever you find!!!

[Falcon Racing]

I've been in contact with Gerald Swan at Lola Heritage and he has been very helpful in verifying the car but was not able to give me any information about the early history once it was received at Hass Automotive. Gerald stated that it may have been used as a test car for evaluation as the next T250 was not delivered to Hass until 5 to 6 weeks later. Any information you may have as far as entry lists or race results would be greatly appreciated as it may give me some other contacts to find early history.

Thanks Dave

[E1pix]

From VIR History site…

1971 Runoffs Results

1	Tom Davey, Tenafly, N.1.	NE	Lola
2	John Zeitler, Stamford, Conn.	NE	Zeitler
3	Jim Purcell, Taylor, Mich.	CE	Lynx
4	Galen Lyons, Austin, Tex.	SW	Royale
5	Joe Wedig, Alton, III.	MW	Hawke
6	Harvey Staab, Denver, Colo.	MW	Winkelmann
7	Kirk Stowers, Melbourne, Fla.	SE	Caldwell
8	Bill Baldwin, Gladstone, N.J.	NE	Royale
DNF	John Finger, Greenville, S.C.	SE	Zink
DNF	Harry Ingle, Charlotte, N.C.	SE	Zink
DNF	Dick Cooney, Redlands, Ca.	SP	Hawke
DNS	John Mills, Southfield, Mi.	CE	Lynx
DNS	Jim Tharp, Kansas City, Mo.	MW	Lola T250

1972 Runoffs Results
https://www.virhistory.com/cars/arrc/scans/72-res-3.jpg

1973 Runoffs Results
https://www.virhistory.com/cars/arrc/scans/73-res-3.jpg

It’s a start.

[Falcon Racing]

From VIR History site…

1971 Runoffs Results

1	Tom Davey, Tenafly, N.1.	NE	Lola
2	John Zeitler, Stamford, Conn.	NE	Zeitler
3	Jim Purcell, Taylor, Mich.	CE	Lynx
4	Galen Lyons, Austin, Tex.	SW	Royale
5	Joe Wedig, Alton, III.	MW	Hawke
6	Harvey Staab, Denver, Colo.	MW	Winkelmann
7	Kirk Stowers, Melbourne, Fla.	SE	Caldwell
8	Bill Baldwin, Gladstone, N.J.	NE	Royale
DNF	John Finger, Greenville, S.C.	SE	Zink
DNF	Harry Ingle, Charlotte, N.C.	SE	Zink
DNF	Dick Cooney, Redlands, Ca.	SP	Hawke
DNS	John Mills, Southfield, Mi.	CE	Lynx
DNS	Jim Tharp, Kansas City, Mo.	MW	Lola T250

1972 Runoffs Results
https://www.virhistory.com/cars/arrc/scans/72-res-3.jpg

1973 Runoffs Results
https://www.virhistory.com/cars/arrc/scans/73-res-3.jpg

It’s a start.

Thanks for the info, I'll start from there.
Dave

[E1pix]

You’re welcome, Dave.

Might not be a bad idea to PM me your info. We travel full-time so moving storage will be a mega-thrash, but know exactly where my programs are — in hanging files, doesn’t everyone?

From memory I have programs for:
1971 (possibly June Sprints) S/V Pro race at Road America
1972 June Sprints, S/V Pro race at RA, Brainerd Can-Am (not sure if S/V ran), SCCA Runoffs
1973 June Sprints, S/V Pro race at RA, SCCA Runoffs

You might contact Allen Brown (allen@oldracingcars.com). Wonderful resource, and a real enthusiast, and they’ve added American Super Vee to their remarkable, existing work of the upper pro Formulas and Series.

Here’s what they’ve done for Super Vee documentation so far:
https://www.oldracingcars.com/fsv/

[Lucien j LeBlanc]

I recently purchased a Lola T250 Super Vee and am trying to find any early information. The car was invoiced to Carl Hass Automotive on Jan. 18th 1971 and delivered mid to late Jan. The first records I can find show the first Log Book issued by Chicago Region To Warren West in early 1974. Car is believed to have been run in the Pro Series in 1971-72-73 before going to Warren West. Car was then purchased by Ron Taylor of St. Joe, Michigan in 1975 or 1976 and then purchased by Tom Connley of South Bend, IN. in 1979.
No records are available from Carl Hass Automotive, so I'm looking for contact information for Warren West (formerly of Chicago Region who raced a Lola Formula Ford before moving to SV) or any other early information.

Thanks, Dave

I am located in Grants Pass Oregon I have two Lola T252s. One is close to being completely restored, the other has all the parts to build it and much much, more. You should PM me to get acquainted and see if I can be of help.

Lou LeBlanc

[2fast2stop]

I own T250 HU09 which has been through an extensive frame up restoration. It currently has a 1600cc Type I with a MK8. I have a fresh 2.0L Type IV (dynoed at 148 bhp/138 lb/ft) with a ''new'' MK9 5-speed I bought some years ago that was still new in the box with the original HAAS spec tag. It was setup for an AC car with the reverse linkage, and it has a Quaife. I also designed an uber strong sportscar nose, 13 lbs.

I also have T252 HU26, only raced by a local racer for three years then stuffed in a corner for 45 years. It has all the original parts as delivered from Lola, mirror brackets, exhaust header hangar/ rain light combo bracket and more.

Best,

Frank G. Muegge
St. Louis

[E1pix]

It would be great to know more history of Lucien’s and Frank’s cars.

Super Vee is sadly short of known lineage.

[2fast2stop]

It would be great to know more history of Lucien’s and Frank’s cars.

Super Vee is sadly short of known lineage.

The T252 HU26 that I own was purchased from HAAS and driven by Joe Wedig. The log for HU26 shows it was Invoiced to Haas on the 12^th July 1971. It was fitted with Hewland gearbox H8 1306, engine number127 U 001745 and Blue bodywork. I believe he was from Belleville, IL. He raced the car for about three years and parked it and it was never raced again. I bought it in boxes and it still has the original blue paint and all numbers and class designation are ''had painted on.''

I purchased the T250 HU09 in the pictures from someone in Chicago. It was another mess I bought in boxes with no driver history but it has been reborn. Lola’s Chassis Logs state that HU09 was invoiced to Carl Haas (as Lola’s North American agent) on 7^th May 1971 as a rolling chassis fitted with Royal Blue bodywork.

I also have water cooled SV T328 HU97 with no history as well. Call me a sucker for old Super Vees but they were a huge part of racing and getting to Indy cars back in the day....








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[E1pix]

I could be wrong, Frank… but think David Hansen of Racine, Wisconsin had a blue T250 before buying a Lola orange T324 in early 1976. The 324 was the first of over 500 race cars I lettered in the day.

I’ll direct Allen Brown of OldRacingCars.com to this thread at some point. I know they’ve been slowly piecing HU numbers together, but also know it may be an impossible task. F-Atlantic was hard enough, but sadly for Super Vee that series had so many powerhouse drivers (peaking in 1976!) that it’s taken some priority.

I think only a half-dozen T328s were built (?) so hope you can find more on that one, too.

Thanks.