Flagtronic in car warning light system

[Rick Iverson]

Sir:

The FT200. In doing so, you provide unlimited mounting applications.

rick, are you referring to the ft200 device or the new ft-rd device?

[Rick Iverson]

And provide a more appealing price to the consumer. Lest we forget, this is not a growth industry.

Sir:

The FT200. In doing so, you provide unlimited mounting applications.

[Steve Davis]

Hi all,

We have added a page to our website with 15+ examples of Flagtronics In-Car Device Installations. I have had a few people ask so this should be a good resource. You can email me your install pictures and I'll do my best to add them to the Installation Examples page: https://flagtronics.com/pages/installation-examples

Regards,
Collie

Collie, I have just finished 'upgrading' my FT200 locally here in my garage. All went well, BUT.. I found that I seemed to DOWNGRADE my version of firmware.. from some 0.7.12.x to some 0.7.1.8 (the SCCA version). I think it would be somewhat helpful if more information was included in the (windows) APP to display what the CURRENT as well as PREVIOUS versions are for each 'sanctioning body' so it would be more CLEAR what we are doing when we 'update' our units. Apparently, the version numbers are DIFFERENT for each sanctioning body. SO.. when I (only a couple weeks ago) updated my FT200 (this was before your separation of sanctioning bodies) the APP loaded in a version that seemed to be 'newer' than the SCCA version that I just uploaded.
I'm sure that there are 'some number' of racers out there that run under more than 1 sanctioning body and it would help to make it more clear what the various versions for the various 'bodies' MEAN. It should also be ON THE WEBSITE, but also in the APP, so we don't have to stop any upgrade process to go check the website to be SURE we are loading the CORRECT version of firmware to our units.
Food for thought :-).
Steve, FV80 -- should see you at Elkhart!

[Steve Davis]

...so it would be more CLEAR what we are doing when we 'update' our units. ...

Forgot to mention to include the RELEASE DATE for each version. The version numbers are in no way representative of WHEN they were released.

Steve

[Dave Harmison]

Lots of the people who could answer this are probably busy in Wisconsin and maybe the answer is in the Runoffs Supps, but what does a Flagtronic unit display if it has an error? Are you required to stop racing and report to your pit if your unit has an error? If it faults and race control can’t see you, will you be black-flagged?

If I had to quit every time my AIM or GoPro had an error I’d have quit long ago.

Other question: other than transitioning to a subscription model, either for each user or hidden by being charged to the sanctioning body or track, how will on-going support and updates be paid for? Isn’t it almost certain that it has to go subscription?

[Hardingfv32]

1) The SCCA flag system has the highest priority/command level. If the FT does not agree with the flags, you follow the flags. If the FT system is down, you follow the flags.

2) Updates: Why should there be updates if the system is stable? Is the MyLaps system ever updated? Certainly not the car transponders.

Brian

[BeerBudgetRacing]

2) Updates: Why should there be updates if the system is stable? Is the MyLaps system ever updated? Certainly not the car transponders.

Really? A system with 2 way comms, GPS, etc. and you are comparing it to a beacon? I'm sure MyLaps had updates over time.

[BeerBudgetRacing]

Other question: other than transitioning to a subscription model, either for each user or hidden by being charged to the sanctioning body or track, how will on-going support and updates be paid for? Isn’t it almost certain that it has to go subscription?

I would say per participant - like motorsportreg - would be fair.

[Hardingfv32]

Just watched the Tue FV Runoff Qual with the active track map was displayed. Must be similar to what the FT system displays. On the first lap a car went of at Canada corner. You could see how cars going through the corner were under yellow and then a short time later when the track went Code 45. The car off at the corner had its number displayed and showed no motion on the track map progressions.

Everything just as advertised.

Brian

[Hardingfv32]

I noticed that the safety car is being used instead of the Code 45 during the Runoff races. If we acknowledge that the Runoffs is the first use of Code 45 and not wanting to upset any race outcomes, what is the future of Code 45 during ordinary races?

Is there an underlying preference to bunch fields with the safety car, NASCAR style competition?

Could there be overwhelming issues policing the Code 45 application during races?

Brian

[racerjon1]

I noticed that the safety car is being used instead of the Code 45 during the Runoff races. If we acknowledge that the Runoffs is the first use of Code 45 and not wanting to upset any race outcomes, what is the future of Code 45 during ordinary races?

Is there an underlying preference to bunch fields with the safety car, NASCAR style competition?

Could there be overwhelming issues policing the Code 45 application during races?

Brian

With this being the first year,they didn't want to disrupt what drivers were most used to while they fought for National Championships - as the club and driver's get more experience with it, I suspect there can and will be evaluation and consideration of whether to stick with that or change it.

[John LaRue]

Full implementation of FT with VSC should commence with the 2025 HST series. There were a few hiccups with the system in the formula and Prototype cars on the first day of testing but those were quickly resolved and my experience with the system was positive.

[Steve Demeter]

Thanks for the update John. I take it that the initial use of FT will be with the Hoosier Super tour, Right??

[John LaRue]

Thanks for the update John. I take it that the initial use of FT will be with the Hoosier Super tour, Right??

That is my understanding. Runoffs and HST in 2025. Implementation at Major's will likely depend upon the track (or Region) and their acquisition of the FT equipment.