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    Default 2020 Runoffs Class Eligibilty

    Does anyone know where the link is the the runoffs class eligibility tracker is? It would be the one with the car counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamLoughead35 View Post
    Does anyone know where the link is the the runoffs class eligibility tracker is? It would be the one with the car counts.

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    Try: https://www.crbscca.com/public/runof...fsTracking.php
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    If a class does not meet its "2020 Runoffs Eligibility" numbers this year, (FB, FC, FE, FE2...) there's always the potential to be invited regardless, but here's another question along that line:

    At Majors and Super Tour events in 2020, are the "ineligible" class cars still welcome to show up and compete, or are they relegated to Regional events only?
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    Ian,
    Another big question..,if the class meets eligibility for the Runoffs, but has less than 10 entries, will a National Champion be declare ? What about next year at RA ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill gillespie View Post
    Ian,
    Another big question..,if the class meets eligibility for the Runoffs, but has less than 10 entries, will a National Champion be declare ? What about next year at RA ?

    These are likely separate questions. A class gets a guaranteed invitation based on the published eligibility requirements. Other classes 'may' be invited.

    If there are fewer than 10 entries at the Runoffs, the class does not crown a champion. However, participation through the season may secure a guaranteed invitation the next year.
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    Default Declaring a National Champion

    3.7.4.C.2

    A Runoffs eligible class with a minimum of 3 race starters and fewer than 10 qualified drivers who have participated in at least one on track session at the current year's Runoffs will name a National Champion but subsequently be on probation for the following year's Runoffs. Should a class on probation at the Runoffs fail to have a minimum of 10 qualified drivers enter and participate in at least one on-track session the year it is on probation, that class may run as a supplemental class but will not name a National Champion. A Runoffs eligible class that does not have a minimum of 3 race starters, regardless of probation status, will run as a supplemental class but will not name a National Champion.

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    Thanks John,
    In 2018, FA had less than 10 Runoffs entrants . It looks like less than 10 entrants for 2019 at VIR. Will FA be able to crown a National Champ in 2020 if it has at least 10 entrants ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill gillespie View Post
    Thanks John,
    In 2018, FA had less than 10 Runoffs entrants . It looks like less than 10 entrants for 2019 at VIR. Will FA be able to crown a National Champ in 2020 if it has at least 10 entrants ?
    thanks,
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    Yes, so long as at least 10 cars turn a wheel during the week and 3 take the green flag for the race. There is only one car entered in FB. At the entrant's election they can transfer to FA due to the class being terminated as of 12/31/2019 and it otherwise being eligible for FA.

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    FB is being terminated as a class or just a Runoffs class? What a shame!!!

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    Tragic! The coolest new class since, Geez, Formula B in the '70s?

    History repeats. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    FB is being terminated as a class or just a Runoffs class? What a shame!!!
    The F1000 'Pro' Series drew all the competitors from Club Racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Demeter View Post
    FB is being terminated as a class or just a Runoffs class? What a shame!!!
    FB is having the worst entries by any SCCA class by a long shot. It has only has 69 entries from the 2018 & 2019 seasons as well as the 2018 Runoffs. Compared to its brothers of FA with 288 and FC with 253. It will loose its national status and the cars can be converted to FA's. I am not sure if FB will be able to run Regionals but I imagine they will
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    Some things never change......SCCA's "a class for every car" mentality ensures that this loop never ends. Mothers that eat their young are headed for extinction. Why the hell do they allow so many open wheel classes???? Merge them into two or three and adjust weights to compensate for performance differences. Hey I won a National race once (does it matter that I was the only car in class?)

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    Default post-runoffs ...

    so FA, F1000, FE, and FM failed to meet the "minimum of ten participants at the runoffs"

    does that mean that regardless of their participation numbers this past season, they are on probation next year regardless?

    and FC, although meeting 10+ at the runoffs, failed to meet the 2-year total participation, are also on probation?
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    FE transition is complete and it disappears as a Runoffs class. Also, FB merges into FA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Green View Post
    Some things never change......SCCA's "a class for every car" mentality ensures that this loop never ends. Mothers that eat their young are headed for extinction. Why the hell do they allow so many open wheel classes???? Merge them into two or three and adjust weights to compensate for performance differences. Hey I won a National race once (does it matter that I was the only car in class?)
    Probably in my 94 Van Dieman? I won a few Nationals back when there was over 30 FC cars in the field and we had 56 for the pro race at Mid Ohio when club racers could run Pinto engines. then someone decided to screw that up as well. Pinto, Z tec, mazda, 1000 CC motorcycle. What a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ret9191 View Post
    Probably in my 94 Van Dieman? I won a few Nationals back when there was over 30 FC cars in the field and we had 56 for the pro race at Mid Ohio when club racers could run Pinto engines. then someone decided to screw that up as well. Pinto, Z tec, mazda, 1000 CC motorcycle. What a mess.
    So true, but I won the National at Brainerd with Dick Greer's S2. Had to travel that far to do it....great track though. Well worth the trip.

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