Bob Knox : A practical guide to race car data analysis

[dsmithwc04]

Curious if anybody has the Bob knox data analysis book and is interested in selling their copy.

[sccadsr31]

Found it on Amazon for $81.03 .....+$3.99 shipping delivered between Jan 15 - Feb 2

[romoman]

I have it but wouldn't sell it. It was being printed on demand at Amazon, so getting one shouldn't be a problem. It's a great book and worth the price just for the math channels in the appendix. Add in all the other info and its exceptional. If you like Bob's book, I would check out Jorge Seger's book Analysis Techniques for Racecar Data Analysis, Second Edition. It may give you a headache, but with some work, it'll make you faster too.

[dsmithwc04]

Thanks!

[FrankRizzo]

Found it on Amazon for $81.03 .....+$3.99 shipping delivered between Jan 15 - Feb 2

I found it for $70. You just have to look a little harder. (Translation: I didn't save the link).

[Rick Iverson]

try here

[FrankRizzo]

Here it is for $72.95. I saw one for $70 last night, but can't find it now.

[Phil Picard]

hmmm. wonder what my autographed copy is worth..........

[Pi_guy]

hmmm. wonder what my autographed copy is worth..........

He autographed them all.
Great book belongs in your book collection.

[dsmithwc04]

Got it on Amazon Prime. Most expensive but I'll get it before the long cold weekend with nothing else to do.

[romoman]

Order up Chris Brown's "Making Sense of Squiggly Lines" too. That one you could get through in a weekend.

[David Ferguson]

We have both of these books in stock:

http://shop.veracitydata.com/search?type=product&q=book

of course we're not as cheap as Amazon or Ebay.

[Tigaman]

Bob's book is the best practical info for modern club and pro level systems.

Chris' book is the best introduction to the science of what you're looking at and looking for.

Jorge's book is for when you're pretty facile with both of the others...

Just glad I have my copies of Buddy Fey's book! Try pricing that!

[sccadsr31]

Don't forget Christopher Brown's Making Sense of Squiggly Lines ISBN # 978-0-9832593-0-5

I got some of my books including Knox from Veracity Racing and David has been helpful in explaining some of the concepts I had trouble with.

David

Edit oops didn't see it was already listed...

[Pi_guy]

Bob's book is the best practical info for modern club and pro level systems.

Chris' book is the best introduction to the science of what you're looking at and looking for.

Jorge's book is for when you're pretty facile with both of the others...

Just glad I have my copies of Buddy Fey's book! Try pricing that!

I have one was thinking of copying and freely releasing it, education for the masses.

But what about Claude?

[FrankRizzo]

I have one was thinking of copying and freely releasing it, education for the masses.

But what about Claude?

[Pi_guy]

I was mostly joking about scanning the Data Power book.

[FrankRizzo]

I was mostly joking about scanning the Data Power book.

If a book is out of print, I think it's fair game.

[HazelNut]

I did the cover for that for Bob!

[Pi_guy]

I did the cover for that for Bob!

That bit of information should accelerate sales.

[HazelNut]

It's a masterpieces, I know. Thanks. It's right up there with starry night, water lilies, or the scream.

as I recall the original version was "text, in large font"

[HazelNut]

Btw it's an informative book. Bob gave me a copy for helping him out. He's a smart dude, not to mention a damn nice guy.

[dsmithwc04]

I've now read the book twice and all I can say is that I literally wasted every practice session I've ever ran. At least now I have a very clear method on which to improve both myself and my car. Couple this book with John Blocks help and I am anxious to put this new found knowledge to work!

However, AiM Race Studio 2 seam a little limited on viewing the data especially compared to CDS Track Master software although I must keep in mind the AiM Software is about $1500 less.... It appears as if you have to setup a different User Profile for each "page" of data you want to review. I was following along Bob's method and using his recommended screen views but AiM just doesn't allow a lot of adjustment on how it shows the data. Am I missing something?

[FrankRizzo]

Since you've read it, would you consider renting it out? :-)

[dsmithwc04]

Since you've read it, would you consider renting it out? :-)

There is so much in the book that I cant imagine not having it handy until I pound the info into my head.

Honestly, its worth every penny of the $99 price and once you have it in your hand you'll be glad you don't have to give it back.

[fuzzy.logic]

I have a question regarding all those three books to someone who has or read them all:

Data Power: Using Racecar Data Acquisition : A Practical Guide to : Selection and Setup Data Interpretation Trackside Operation
A Practical Guide to Race Car Data Analysis
Analysis Techniques for Racecar Data Acquisition

Which one would you prefer having only one choice as the most comprehensive source? "Analysis Techniques" is about twice more expensive than the first two. Does the content of "A Practical Guide" as more recent book fully covers and gives more information than older "Data Power". Does "Analysis Techniques" fully cover the content of the first two (including all math channel formulas) and even adds more insights? Or you have to have them all? I just don't want duplicate information and would prefer one as most complete and comprehensive source. I have both engineering and racing background, so complex formulas or software are not a problem. Real life things like sensors/hardware and intepreting the results for racing are important too.

[Tigaman]

Knox's Practical Guide.

I have multiple copies of them all, but this is my desert island book...

[romoman]

I'd say they are all different levels and different books.

Data Power is great because it has so many rules of thumb that still apply and gives a general, overall outline and way to look at data.

Knox's book is great because it has a systematic approach to data and gives you a large number of math channels (for different data systems) and how to interpret them.

Analysis Techniques goes a few steps beyond Knox's book and doesn't give you any specific math channel syntax, but gives you the general formula. It also covers the same basic material, but adds a large amount.

I think they are all worthy purchases and would probably do Practical Guide, Analysis Techniques (second edition), and then Data Power. Analysis Techniques is the book that I reference more than the others.