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    That was really spectacular! Of course they were both doing a little bit of give and take plus being careful with the hardware. However, they weren't holding back on the top end. AMAZING to see the W196 keeping up with and passing the Brabham (looks like a BT19).

    THANKS for posting. A real treat!
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    Bravo!

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    This had to be the treat of a lifetime for Coulthard:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1tHavnd9w

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    Good vid on sports car racing history:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw1F-3U4GJQ

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    This is way too cool - Mike Hawthorn in-car camera and commentary in a D-Type Jag at Le Mans, 1956

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpRFagIbcPE

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Pare View Post
    This is way too cool - Mike Hawthorn in-car camera and commentary in a D-Type Jag at Le Mans, 1956

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpRFagIbcPE
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    Love the lack of any barriers between the road and the trees along the Mulsanne Straight!

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    How about the lack of separation between the pits and the main straight? Unless you count the line.

    How much fun would it been to have driven those cars then?

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    For those into this type of nostalgia, and have Amazon Prime, use your internet-based TV adaptor (ROKU, etc.) to view Amazon Prime video (it's free) and look for the BBC series on early F1, Rally, TT, Bonneville, and various interest-based shows (Nic Hamilton's first year racing).
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    Always amazing to look at the old YouTube videos of various tracks to see how open they were without guardrails or runoff areas. The RA various videos from the 60's show this particularly well, boy if you went off in a lot of places you were screwed. Having raced there in that era gives me the "willies" to look at it now. Laguna is much the same where only a large dirt bank existed around turns 2 and 3 and in a fast car you were really flying. Ignorance was bliss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Kehoe View Post
    .... large dirt bank existed around turns 2 and 3 and in a fast car you were really flying. Ignorance was bliss!
    Turn 2 was the big sweeper around the flat section of the lake past the S/F line. Turn 3 was a kink just before the personnel bridge (all dirt for sure). HOWEVER Turn 4 in those day was a tragedy waiting to happen BIG uphill sweeper with a short dirt runoff on the outside leading to a 100 foot cliff. Only person I ever saw do that corner flat out was Gilles Villeneuve FLAT OUT in a Formula Atlantic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Kehoe View Post
    Always amazing to look at the old YouTube videos of various tracks to see how open they were without guardrails or runoff areas. The RA various videos from the 60's show this particularly well, boy if you went off in a lot of places you were screwed. Having raced there in that era gives me the "willies" to look at it now. Laguna is much the same where only a large dirt bank existed around turns 2 and 3 and in a fast car you were really flying. Ignorance was bliss!

    RE Turn 2-3 at Laguna was called The "Salinas Exit". It was quite a drop down the hill into trees and manzanita, plus areas with UXO.
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    I was behind Randy Lewis at Laguna during a practice session for the Can-Am at Laguna when he tried to visit Salinas at turn 4 and he damned near made it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanW View Post
    RE Turn 2-3 at Laguna was called The "Salinas Exit". It was quite a drop down the hill into trees and manzanita, plus areas with UXO.
    The drop down the hill into the trees was at TURN 4, The sweeper up the hill after the bridge. Turns 2 and 3 weren't much of a turn just big sweepers BEFORE you reached the bridge. Turn 5 was another 'kink' cresting the hill on the back straight. Turn 6 was the cork screw. Turn 7 was the sweeper left down the hill and Turn 8 was the final right near the pit entrance. Turn 9 was the final hard, hard left on to the front straight. AND that's the old Laguna.

    For those of you who seem to have forgotten the old track:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekEz4ua6VOI
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    Let me tell you in the Can-Am car turns 2 and 3 were far more than simple sweeping turns as there was a little dogleg between 2 & 3 and it was nearly flat out unless you were Al Jr who was flat through there! Maybe if you driving a FV it might have been a Sunday drive!

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    Here is an in car video of Chip Robinson driving one lap around old Laguna in Jaguar XJR5 including a slightly blurry track map https://youtu.be/_UOIm6L8QXM


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Kehoe View Post
    .......in the Can-Am car turns 2 and 3 were far more than simple sweeping turns as there was a little dogleg between 2 & 3 and it was nearly flat out unless you were Al Jr .........!
    Agree totally. In a Can-Am car many turns that are 'easy sweepers' in most normal sports cars are on the edge.
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