13" Wheels - 4 on 4 bolt patern

[MikeP14]

Looking for 13" wheels to fit Cheetah SR1. 4 on 4 Bolt pattern

Front: 13 x 8 (6" backset)
Rear: 13 x 10 (4" backset)

Thanks
Mike

[10rmotor]

Are you sure about the 4 on 4 pattern for the cheetah? Unless they are something really strange you either have vw rabbit or fiat hubs, neither of which have that pattern.

[rob66x]

you can buy them from keiser wheels

[J Leonard]

4 on 4 is a standard BMC pattern. Classic Minis were 4 on 4 also some small Chevrolets, Vega or Chevette. Chevron used it on Sports 2000 cars also.

[10rmotor]

4 on 4 is a standard BMC pattern. Classic Minis were 4 on 4 also some small Chevrolets, Vega or Chevette. Chevron used it on Sports 2000 cars also.

I'm sure that all of what you say is true, but I don't see cheetahs or A-macs, which use the same uprights/bearings/hubs, on your list. For sure Keizer can build you wheels as those were commonly used on both chassis. I have several keizer wheel sets for both of my A-Mac chassis. For the OP I'd just verify that the 4 on 4 pattern is correct Are these wheels going to be for rain tires? I may have some wheel centers to get you partially there such that all you would need are rim halves and hardware. The centers that I think I have could also be drilled for a 4 on 4 pattern as they are the old keizer "plate" centers.

[MikeP14]

As far as I know they are Fiat hubs on the 2003 model Cheetah. Do you have different information.

Thanks
Mike

[10rmotor]

I believe its 100mm bolt circle. Measure an existing wheel to verify and confirm that it isn't vw which is a little different.

[MikeP14]

@ 10rmotor - Great -thanks for the response.

the wheels are used for rain (does it make a difference?)

I am interested in the centers you have available - how can I contact you?

Thanks
Mike

[MikeP14]

Attached are pictures - is this a 4x4 ( 4 x 100) bolt pattern?

Thanks
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[10rmotor]

You can't measure bolt patterns with a tape measure as its not accurate enough. You need to use calipers and measure the distance of the bolt holes or studs on the hub.

The centers I have are completely different than what you have. When I get home I'll see if I have any centers and if so I'll send you some pics. PM me your email address and I'll send the pics to you.

[scorp997]

FIATs are 4x98mm, close to 4" but not quite. If they are FIAT based, you may have a tough time finding used.

As far as I know they are Fiat hubs on the 2003 model Cheetah. Do you have different information.

Thanks
Mike

[Dan Morrison]

Mike, I have some Le Grande wheels that you might be able to use. You can see them her in this post.

http://www.apexspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68541

Dan

[MikeP14]

Thanks Dan.

I have confirmed they are Fiat hubs 1 x 98 not 1 x 100.

Thanks to Scorp997 for the guidance.

PM sent to r10motor

Sorry about the 2mm error = big difference.

Mike

[Steve Demeter]

It is usually a real trick to get the calipers inside the rim to be able to measure the BC.

Never have been able to figure out a good way.

I just measure the BC on the hub if I need to know.

[scorp997]

FIATs, actually Lancia Scorpions (hence the name), used to be my main hobby so I know a bit about their 'differences' to other makes. I haven't touched either oh my Scorpions since getting into Formula Ford.

Thanks Dan.

I have confirmed they are Fiat hubs 1 x 98 not 1 x 100.

Thanks to Scorp997 for the guidance.

[jimbo]

I have a pair of Revolution 13 x 8, 4 on 98 wheels, if you are still looking. Bought them used, for spares, seller and I both thought they were 4 on 100. Had them for years before I tried to use them on anything, then discovered they were 4 on 98. I never knew there was a 4 on 98 bolt pattern! I'd love to sell them, they're a little too big for paper weights.

[MikeP14]

Do you know what the backset is on the wheels?

I am looking for a 6" backset

Thanks Mike