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    Default O2 sensor Q

    I set up an O2 sensor in a bung on my exhaust. When I first fired it up all readings were in the mid 12's and I was happy. Then after maybe 1.5 min all the readings went up to mid 14's. I am sure the car did not change that quickly. Is it possible that the leaded gas messed up the sensor that fast, or something else messed w/ the sensor? Any ideas?

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    O2 sensors need to get hot before they work right I think.
    Also if you can just get the lambda reading instead of converting to A/F ratio it will be more useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikey View Post
    O2 sensors need to get hot before they work right I think.
    Also if you can just get the lambda reading instead of converting to A/F ratio it will be more useful
    It takes an O2 sensor CONTROLLER to manage the heater in the sensor. Several companies make them, but you can't just 'stick' a sensor in the exhaust bung and have it work.. for long. If you don't have a controller, that's your problem. If you DO have one, you need to contact the vendor.

    Second item in above post ... "more useful"... WHY? the Lamda and A/F are directly related by simple math, aren't they? What makes lambda more useful?
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    I got a Magnum AFR gauge(and a Bosch sensor). The paperwork shows gauge connected directly to the sensor. Plugs show rich mix.
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    Did you get the wide band unit or the narrow band one?
    Actually, I don't see a WB option. The only info is for a narrowband unit. It's intended ONLY for street cars and won't actually give you any useful info for racing ..at least I don't think it will.
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    Default Lambda /AFR

    Yes the wide band sensor is the one to have. Lambda is the preferred readout in almost all tuning as Lambda is "one" no matter what fuel you use.

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    Lambda is preferred because the stoichiometric AFR varies by fuel type. Lambda=1 at stoichiometric for all fuel types but 14.7:1 afr does not always equal stoichiometric for every fuel type.

    I tune my PFM to 0.89-0.92 lambda at WOT full load.

    There's a lot of articles online if you want to look at understanding the chemistry more.

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