2013 Majors Schedule Announced

[DaveZ]

[quote=pukka;369666]I'm one of the directors of the board for SFR (Brian G). I support incorporating Majors into our schedule. I was in Reno and sat down with Butch. I was at the Majors announcement at PRI in Orlando last week. I can speak without conjecture on the topic.

Thanks, Brian G (aha! the Pukka is identified, and more easily than the Stig...), for the clarifications, and for the work you and the rest of our SFR BoD'rs have obviously put into this. Still am voting for a Major in our schedule, but not if it puts our Region's resources at risk by not allowing at least some inclusion of our regional-only racers. Let's see what happens.

DaveZ

[jim murphy]

[quote=DaveZ;369672]

I'm one of the directors of the board for SFR (Brian G). I support incorporating Majors into our schedule. I was in Reno and sat down with Butch. I was at the Majors announcement at PRI in Orlando last week. I can speak without conjecture on the topic.

Thanks, Brian G (aha! the Pukka is identified, and more easily than the Stig...), for the clarifications, and for the work you and the rest of our SFR BoD'rs have obviously put into this. Still am voting for a Major in our schedule, but not if it puts our Region's resources at risk by not allowing at least some inclusion of our regional-only racers. Let's see what happens.

DaveZ

Petition the BOD like the Pro-IT and received an exception, as heard from Butch Kummer.

Jim

[G.B.]

They don't have enough grandstands to support the spectators at a major event. duh.

-Mike

Please tell me you are joking!

[mousecatcher]

So NJMP and Mid-Ohio both have a Major on the exact same weekend. And Watkins Glen has a Major on the exact same weekend as a National at Nelson Ledges. How is this going to cluster competition, which is supposed to be the main goal of the Majors? Retarded. Period.

I doubt scheduling problems like that are intentional. It will take a season to fix.

[jim murphy]

Please tell me you are joking!

We asked Butch about the smaller tracks around the SEDIV and he said that they do
NOT have any capacity for spectators so they are not considered.

Jim

[mike g.]

We asked Butch about the smaller tracks around the SEDIV and he said that they do
NOT have any capacity for spectators so they are not considered.

Jim

Last I heard they were expecting 80,000 spectators? Is that you generally get for a SEDIV race? In CENDIV its only around 45,000.

-Mike

[BWC54]

Are you sure he didn't mean 80 spectators?

[Steve Demeter]

Spoke with Steve Harris and he said to assure everyone that MIS is correcting all the concerns voiced when SCCA inspected the track. He was there personally and is a former S-2000 racer, so I take him at his word. But still gotta see if MIS keeps their promises.

[Amon]

A couple of lawn chairs should do!


Mark

[Amon]

Steve,

Based on my experience from the August race, they'll have to almost double the width of the infield portion of the track, remove the gravel from the corners and
figure out how to blend the infield into the banking, both entering and exiting etc...


Mark

[JRMarchand]

I found this on MIS, if this is the new layout, that would be worth checking out.

http://apache.mtri.org/mis/index_java.html

[Westroc #19]

Internal road coarse and oval. They may repave external coarse in the future.

[cgscgs]

I was hoping we could race on this course.

[Jnovak]

MIS is cool, but how about any other date? 1 whole week between Mid-Ohio and MIS. If you want racers at both Mid-Ohio and MIS it will need to be a different date.

Jay Novak

[Chris Elwell]

I understand that, but I think the Majors are going to need to make a great first impression to sell people on the idea. The schedules for 2013 are not going to help that one bit.

I doubt scheduling problems like that are intentional. It will take a season to fix.

[gcoffin]

I think someone forgot to take their Lithium.......or forgot how to count

As a NWR member I am thinking that I will join SFR.

[924RACR]

I'm with Jay and Guy. MIS is a questionable choice, at best; putting it back-to-back with an event like Mid-O seems like it's guaranteed to fail.

I'd probably be willing to take my chances there if it were some other weekend - no trouble getting crew for that event! - but no freakin' way would I do it then.

Why even bother spending our money to book the weekend?!?

[Jnovak]

I'm with Jay and Guy. MIS is a questionable choice, at best; putting it back-to-back with an event like Mid-O seems like it's guaranteed to fail.

I'd probably be willing to take my chances there if it were some other weekend - no trouble getting crew for that event! - but no freakin' way would I do it then.

Why even bother spending our money to book the weekend?!?

Correct.

Thanks ... Jay Novak

[John LaRue]

It is all about what weekends and track time is available. No, it isn't ideal, but it is what we have to work with. We can either sit back and poke and bitch or do our best to make it work. Give them some credit at least they are trying to make it better.

[protoform]

In my opinion, forget points If you want to go to the runnoffs there should be a 107% rule. Or 110% rule since we are not Professionals end of story. If you get behind because of a spin, and are not in it for a top 20. Pull over on a straight as the leaders go thru and do not get in there way and change the race. You would want the same consideration if you were in the top 5. For regional drivers have a regional championship and like we have on the east coast . I don't know about the middle of the country or the west coast A North Atlantic road racing championships Or the Mid Atlantic series that is great. Just seems like it could be a lot more simple. Peter E. Cheney fv #06 NER

[JRMarchand]

I'm willing to support and hope more FB guys show up to the MIS's event.

Here is a video I found of the MIS track a few months after repaving. They would have to invest on curbing and some road lane markings to keep the drivers focused, there are too many access roads and makes the thing all too confusing. Maybe, a call to MIS office and I can find out more info on the track and what improvements will take place for the May date. The chicane in the middle of the speedway makes anyone nervous, it looks like a dsr or fa could reach 170 there without the chicane. The transitions did not change much since i drove there in 1999, it was rough with a mustang.

about going to this event and I hope that the track exceeds our expectations. I'm sure the track didn't pass inspection looking this way. I hope to see a lot of you there

http://youtu.be/Twm-U0tHPwQ

[Dave Harmison]

I got my first win at MIS the first year we ran regionals there. That's in modern history. I can't speak for what happened "back in the day" when they ran the outfield course and all that.
The transitions were bad but manageable. I liked the flow of the left-right-left as you came off the front straight and into the infield. We did NOT have a chicane on the oval. That would be a deal breaker for me.
As I remember, we ran counter-clockwise the first year and clockwise the next two years and then no more dates. I prefer counter clockwise. Times were exactly the same either direction, 1:20.xx in a club Ford.
I'd consider going in my CFF if there aren't any regionals on Memorial Day. Of course have to enter as FF.

[Steve Demeter]

Back in the "good old days" of the early to mid eighties in the then Central Division there were 2 nationals at Nelson, 2 at IRP and one or two at MO.

In a 4 week span, year after year the weekends were: Nelson, off, IRP, Mid Ohio and they always had healthy fields.

Fopr those deadly serious about chasing points you did what you had to do to get to those races.

It was not that big a deal then, but again most of us were much younger then.....

[ccoffin]

I think someone forgot to take their Lithium.......or forgot how to count

As a NWR member I am thinking that I will join SFR.

Holy crap does this mean you are actually going to go race in scca? Seems like sfr is actually on the right track and does the same things that Icscc has done in the northwest to keep their region strong.

The majors at the two northwest tracks both compete with more popular and more competitive regional (icscc or otherwise) events once again. Making racers choose between scca and anything else in the northwest has proven itself to be a terrible decision the last few years. Can't understand why they would still do this (I do however understand that there are limited dates available at these two tracks but still Portland in particular has more dates throughout the year and pacific race could be moved to the ridge).

[gcoffin]

Anything is possible Spawn. I might have a sudden need to add several thosand miles of towing and spend 300% of my 2013 race budget to make the 50th. Depends on how good the new paint looks.