NJMP Atlantic Championship rounds 3 & 4

[jim morgan]

insignificant car waiting to go waiting on engine choice

[HazelNut]

Messieurs Morgan and Puderbach bantered some, but that's mostly insignificant.

I also bantered with my dirty newfie/canuck/maple drinker teamate!

As usual, the only humorous comments were made by me.

HA!

[a. pettipas]

I also bantered with my dirty newfie/canuck/maple drinker teamate!

Let's leave personal hygiene out of this!

[Rick Ross]

Any body have any Atlantic practice times from today?

[Dennis Valet]

Practice is tomorrow, unless there was a test day today?

[jim morgan]

Should we start calling you Coach Hazelnut?

[Rick Ross]

My bad.....for some reason I thought that they were on track today. Guess I need to actually go to the website and download an event schedule.

[HazelNut]

Should we start calling you Coach Hazelnut?

NJMP sucks AND it's gonna be a billion degrees. FatBoys are hanging out at Finelli's house, he's got a pool.

[HazelNut]

that said, if I had a proper Atlantic I'd have runt his event even though I hate the track.

[KevinFirlein]

tell me about it Brenden. go to NJ and stir the pot or hang out in the air conditioning and just chill. Normally a no brainer for me but the entire 99 degree non sense is giving second thoughts.

[JByers]

tell me about it Brenden. go to NJ and stir the pot or hang out in the air conditioning and just chill. Normally a no brainer for me but the entire 99 degree non sense is giving second thoughts.

Come on Kevin, I was hoping you would be giving a report on the Baytos creation.

My jetski is ready for the lake tomorrow - it would suck to be suited up in nomex.

[KevinFirlein]

dont worry Jason, I am 95% sure I am going. To bull headed to do the smart thing and stay home. Plus I havent seen Lecain in a while and will be good to catch up with an old sparring partner

[Purple Frog]

Speaking of LeCain, he appears to be fastest first session.

The Baytos K20 broke an input shaft at the end of the second day of testing at Nelson Ledges and is a no show here at NJMP.

OBTW, the weather is beyond horrible.

[John Robinson II]

Kevin,
Still go and find out about the Honda FC. I still have the wings and can take the motor from Morgan's car that way it can be de-nuetered.

[KevinFirlein]

I know the plan from the start was to do a motor for FC based off the fit but I'll ask if anyone has a timeline.

[Rick Ross]

Looks like LeCain was fastest today in his carbed, H-pattern, Toyota 1600cc powered, 90's vintage Ralt RT-41. No sequential gearbox, no paddle shifters, no auto-blip, no carbon brakes.

Nice job, Paul!

[Dennis Valet]

Some photos from today. It is so hot that the heat waves off the ground are actually distorting our photos. Top that off with the fact that the track is unbelievably difficult to work with and it's a photographer's worst nightmare

[Purple Frog]

3:00 pm this afternoon, under the Wisko awning, their wizzy digital thermometer... 105.6

It was brutal.

Yet, with relentless bright sun, a photographer's worst conditions...Team Valet comes through again.

[JByers]

Way to go Paul, on pole by .081 over David Grant. Looks like the comp adjustments are proving to be effective on the parity of table E.

[Rick Ross]

http://www.atlanticchampionshipserie...lifying-1.html

Looks like LeCain on pole (RT-41), with David Grant next (014a) , followed by Fahan (016). Nice mix of cars at the front of the grid.

Anyone know what engine Grant is running this weekend?

[Rick Ross]

Looks like David Grant won, followed by LeCain, and then Keith Grant.

Race 2 is apparently to be gridded based on the Race 1 results (fastest lap).

[Dennis Valet]

What a fantastic race. This weekend seems to see all of the packages running real close to each other... 1600, 1800, 014, 016, Ralt 41... It was a blast to see these cars ripping around in big packs passing each other lap after lap into turn 1. It's impressive to see a pass under brakes consider how short the braking zone is for turn 1.

If you want to see some of the biggest difference in braking and cornering ability, check where the ARCA cars brake for 1 and where the Atlantics brake for 1 Anyway, some photos of the action today.

[Dennis Valet]

So there's this...

[Rick Ross]

Congrats to David Grant on another double win.

Does anyone know what engines the Grants were running this weekend? Were there any 1800cc cars in the race?

[P.W. LeCain]

This has been said before but Mike, Bob, & Al have put together a really great thing here. The support staff really goes out of their way to let us race and compete without a lot of the mumbo jumbo hand jive that you see in other sanctioning bodies. Especially Joe Griffin who makes working with tech informative and helpful.
It was good to meet the Grants. Good guys. Me and the Ralt just didn't have enough for David.
But we had a great time (brutal weather aside), grabbed a pole and 2 podiums, and are bringing home our car intact.
Also, thanks to Sarah Bonnier for supporting the drivers, Greg Rickes for the calls of the race, and Dennis for all the great pictures.

[J Leonard]

Did the 1600s get the 30 Lbs weight reduction?

[Paul LeCain]

Did the 1600s get the 30 Lbs weight reduction?

Yes

[bill gillespie]

Paul,

Congrats on a great weekend, and for upholding the Ralt honor so well. Imho, many gave up on the RT41 way too soon.

I doubt Rand will give much credence to my suggestion to allow older cars (non-014,016) to lower their skirts to the bottom of the tub....bummer !

Congrats to all,
Bill

[Paul LeCain]

Paul,

Congrats on a great weekend, and for upholding the Ralt honor so well. Imho, many gave up on the RT41 way too soon.

I doubt Rand will give much credence to my suggestion to allow older cars (non-014,016) to lower their skirts to the bottom of the tub....bummer !

Congrats to all,
Bill

In fact we had a long tech discussion about skirts. In particular, where is the measurement point?

The old pro rule was that you measured off the tub without any jabroc or whatever (you had to have measurement holes in the jabroc). The club rule (in my opinion) is that you measure from the jabroc. After a long discussion it seems we're going with the 'club' version, but this may be revisited.

People didn't especially want to give up on the RT-41. The old pro series went to the spec Swift 008. When it was shown to be much slower than the Ralt, they hobbled the Ralt with a 5/8" skid plate, minimum wing angles, etc.

[JByers]

Who can recap what was discussed at the Town Hall Meeting?

[KevinFirlein]

know one knows the real spec of the baytos car. depeding on when you speak to HPD guy, motor is either sealed or unsealed, makes 250 or 255 hp and they want to run it w/o SIR even though GCR requires one. Baytos wasnt there and neither were the QSRE so most questions couldnt be answered.

Biggest topic in meeting was brought up by me and was a rehash of atlanta meeting apparently. I asked for Table E to be abolished and return FA to 1600cc class with the 016 aloowed to run as a spec car with its old pro spec 2.3 motor, not built versions of it. After much talk poll was taken and by about 10/2 people wanted table E gone. Problem with poll is it didnt provide alternatives. Keith Grant seemed in favor of having competitors more or less apply for homologation ( my word) for each engine combo and then be given a spec line based on performance. I am guession the others wanted to leave it as is.

about an hour long meeting that really nothing got accomplshed. End of the day , after Summit Point the series is gonna have to step to the plate and make some uncomfortable decisions.

edit : Eric Oseth called from QSRE after he saw post and said K20 motor is unsealed but ECU is sealed

[Rick Ross]

Kevin,

Thanks for the report. Do you know if anyone at the event was running an 1800 cc motor?

[KevinFirlein]

Grants run 1800's, not sure if anyone else had one

[Purple Frog]

The Atlantic men are a bit more reserved on the podium.

[Beartrax]

The Atlantic men are a bit more reserved on the podium.

Hmm, any chance #1 & #2 are related?

[KenT]

The Atlantic men are a bit more reserved on the podium.

It sucks when you have a professional reputation to protect.

[Purple Frog]

More pictures.

David at speed.

How close the finish was even back in the pack.