ACMOTO 200RWHP "ultimate F1000 sleeper motor" package - Thats what they are claiming and legal ?

[tjcezar]

Agreed, sleeper always meant that a car looked that didn't look like anything special but was fast as ****. Mostly used in street drag racing for money. A car that looked like an everyday driver to get someone to bet big money against them only to get there asses handed to them.

Thats what I tought.

[blackbmwk1200r]

Agreed, sleeper always meant that a car looked that didn't look like anything special but was fast as ****. Mostly used in street drag racing for money. A car that looked like an everyday driver to get someone to bet big money against them only to get there asses handed to them.

I agree with this definition of a sleeper when used to describe a car. The implication is that the car is built to look like nothing special and thereby uses deception to gain advantage. When we apply this term to a motor instead of a car; I think one has to conclude that the intention of a sleeper motor is again to gain advantage through deception. Not sure what the intention actually was in this case but use of the sleeper description probably wasn't a great choice if it was used to describe a motor built for F1000 purposes.

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[Brian.Novak]

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C'mon guys. Do you really have enough information to say these guys are trying to make cheater motos based on a second hand conversation that may have been a misunderstanding? Really? If you dont want to do business with them, then don't; but I don't think we should throw them under the bus with the current amount of data.

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I don't think the term sleeper implies cheating. It certainly doesn't in the world of hot rod cars where the term originated and means something that looks stock and slow but it actually fast as hell.

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And believe it or not, there are actually people who use these engines in MOTORCYCLES. Can you imagine that? I know, it's really shocking.

Sheesh, give the guy a break!